Monday, December 01, 2008

In Response To Ignorance: PART IV

PUBLIC AFFAIRS: So you are saying that homosexual feelings are controllable?

ELDER OAKS: Yes, homosexual feelings are controllable [Jacob: Yes feelings are controllable...why should some people have to control their feelings and some not? If it isn't infringing on someone's rights, why should I have to control them? Because your church demands it?]. Perhaps there is an inclination or susceptibility to such feelings that is a reality for some and not a reality for others. But out of such susceptibilities come feelings, and feelings are controllable. If we cater to the feelings, they increase the power of the temptation. If we yield to the temptation, we have committed sinful behavior. That pattern is the same for a person that covets someone else’s property and has a strong temptation to steal [Jacob: Stealing and being gay are totally different, robbing someone of their property infringes on someone's rights, having a consensual relationship does not.]. It’s the same for a person that develops a taste for alcohol [Jacob: Being gay is not an addiction.]. It’s the same for a person that is born with a ‘short fuse,’ as we would say of a susceptibility to anger [Jacob: Being gay is not a personality flaw.]. If they let that susceptibility remain uncontrolled, it becomes a feeling of anger, and a feeling of anger can yield to behavior that is sinful and illegal [Jacob: Anger may lead to actions that infringe on others rights, but anger is an emotion not an attribute of personal identity like being gay is.]

We’re not talking about a unique challenge here. We’re talking about a common condition of mortality. We don’t understand exactly the ‘why,’ or the extent to which there are inclinations or susceptibilities and so on. But what we do know is that feelings can be controlled and behavior can be controlled. The line of sin is between the feelings and the behavior. The line of prudence is between the susceptibility and the feelings. We need to lay hold on the feelings and try to control them to keep us from getting into a circumstance that leads to sinful behavior [Jacob: I've already addressed all this, let's move on.].

ELDER WICKMAN: One of the great sophistries of our age, I think, is that merely because one has an inclination to do something, that therefore acting in accordance with that inclination is inevitable. That’s contrary to our very nature as the Lord has revealed to us. We do have the power to control our behavior [Jacob: We can control our behavior, but that doesn't justify taking away people's rights. Why should your beliefs coerce my behavior? You are promoting discrimination, some people are allowed to be intimate with the person they love and others are not based on your beliefs.]

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